A thread on two individuals, both of whom have had a huge influence on modern ideology of sex and gender.
This thread will be disturbing to some. It's content is very perverted. You have been warned
We will mainly be discussing two satanic men. John Money and Alfred Kinsey.
This thread will be disturbing to some. It's content is very perverted. You have been warned
We will mainly be discussing two satanic men. John Money and Alfred Kinsey.
We will start with Alfred Kinsey. Who was this man? He is described as one of the most influential Americans of the 20th century and a pioneer of sex research. He's also described as an LGBT icon
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447862/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447862/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey
His works, known as the Kinsey reports, and book "Sexual Behaviour in the Human Male", were highly influential...
...but based on the experiences of mass r*pist p*dos, including n*zi p*dos on top of that
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1995/12/08/kinsey-report-fast-and-loose/b058e754-34c5-4c62-87fb-7ee1cd42d625/
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/movies/alfred-kinsey-liberator-or-pervert.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1995/12/08/kinsey-report-fast-and-loose/b058e754-34c5-4c62-87fb-7ee1cd42d625/
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/movies/alfred-kinsey-liberator-or-pervert.html
Kinsey's research is based off him recording "orgasms" of 5 month old boys. Included image directly from his book to show it's real
The wiki pages linked earlier note other criticisms around methodology etc. You can read up more on that yourself. What I want to discuss isn't the research in and of itself, but to show just how much it's impacted society. It wasn't just a best seller and popular with the public
A few years after Kinsey's book, a paper in Harvard Law review wonders if should revise what is and isn't criminal based on his work
The Challenge of a Model Penal Code
Herbert Wechsler
Harvard Law Review
Vol. 65, No. 7 (May, 1952), pp. 1097-1133
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1337048
The Challenge of a Model Penal Code
Herbert Wechsler
Harvard Law Review
Vol. 65, No. 7 (May, 1952), pp. 1097-1133
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1337048
Another paper notes huge Kinsey influence in the American Law Institute. The institute, which made the model penal code (which discusses sexual offences as well) were influenced by Kinsey.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/27556177
https://www.jstor.org/stable/27556177
Same paper continued
Many US states would later adopt this "model penal code". It would also influence supreme court decisions.
Not gonna post whole paper as it's very long, but its filled with info on his influence
Many US states would later adopt this "model penal code". It would also influence supreme court decisions.
Not gonna post whole paper as it's very long, but its filled with info on his influence
Albeit in a dissenting opinion, a US supreme court justice quoted from Kinsey's research in his opinion on the legal case "Boutilier v. Immigration and Naturalization Service"
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2979/gls.2007.14.2.485
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2979/gls.2007.14.2.485
A detailed write up, showing how Kinsey's ideas entered law across the United States and how Kinsey himself worked to change sex laws in numerous parts of America
Source link (whole paper is informative): http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/ALEC%20paper.pdf
Source link (whole paper is informative): http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/ALEC%20paper.pdf
Kinsey was all about trying to portray deviant behaviour as "normal". Yet there is well documented correlation (I know, not the same as causation) between LGBT identity and being abused as a kid
Below write up is written by an actual MD, unlike kinsey
http://thenewatlantis.com/wp-content/uploads/legacy-pdfs/20160819_TNA50SexualityandGender.pdf
Below write up is written by an actual MD, unlike kinsey
http://thenewatlantis.com/wp-content/uploads/legacy-pdfs/20160819_TNA50SexualityandGender.pdf
Next let's look at John Money. Money "introduced the terms gender identity, gender role and sexual orientation and popularised the term paraphilia"
He also conducted involuntary live human experimentation with children as part of his gender research! What a peculiar fellow huh?
He also conducted involuntary live human experimentation with children as part of his gender research! What a peculiar fellow huh?
The tragic case of David Reimer. This kid had a penis condition called phimosis at 6 months. Was referred for circumcision, which was botched due to unconventional methods. His penis was burned
In comes John Money to save the day
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
In comes John Money to save the day
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
Money's "genius" idea was that gender was a product of social learning, not innate. So we can just surgically construct a vagina for this child and raise him as a girl. As he was an identical twin, we can raise the other kid as a boy normally as control for our new experiment!
At 22 months, David was castrated for this experiment. Money also made him simulate sexual behaviour with his brother
By the way it wasn't until he was 15 did David's parents tell him the truth about who he really was
David's brother Brian died of a drug overdose and David killed himself with a shotgun. They lived miserable lives
David's brother Brian died of a drug overdose and David killed himself with a shotgun. They lived miserable lives
Both Kinsey and Money are criminals and abusers. You know the Hollywood movie trope about "scientists going too far"? Often in science fiction settings? It's not only in movies. It happened in real life. All "scientists" involved in these travesties deserve capital punishment
Hope you didn't vomit while reading this thread. I myself shed a tear reading about David Reimer
Addendum: one thing I forgot to add
Look how wiki spins and downplayed the severity of Kinsey's crimes, they say it's "suggested" that there was collaboration with abusers, but the institute "denies this charge". Trying to make it ambiguous, though it's a clear fact
Look how wiki spins and downplayed the severity of Kinsey's crimes, they say it's "suggested" that there was collaboration with abusers, but the institute "denies this charge". Trying to make it ambiguous, though it's a clear fact