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Aaron Rich V Ed Butowsky, Matt Couch and America First Media

Seymour Hersh Oral Deposition

July 15, 2020

$1\\Aaron Rich V Ed Butowsky, Matt Couch and America First MediaSeymour Hersh Oral DepositionJuly 15, 2020$

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7-15-20
Sy Hersh Deposition
P 15

Hersh testifies that Larry Johnson asked Hersh to call Butowsky to help Johnson try and get new business.

$2\\7-15-20Sy Hersh DepositionP 15Hersh testifies that Larry Johnson asked Hersh to call Butowsky to help Johnson try and get new business.$

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7-15-20
Hersh Deposition
P 26

Q: Are you particularly skeptical of news reporting on the so-called Russian hack of the DNC servers?

Hersh: Yes, sir

Hersh is then asked why and he answers that gets into his professional expertise and he doesn't wish to discuss why.

$3\\7-15-20Hersh DepositionP 26Q: Are you particularly skeptical of news reporting on the so-called Russian hack of the DNC servers?Hersh: Yes, sirHersh is then asked why and he answers that gets into his professional expertise and he doesn't wish to discuss why.$

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7-15-20
Hersh Deposition
P 40

Q: Why do you recognize the name Guccifer 2.0?

Hersh: Because it's been involved...it was hired by...my recollection is it was hired by the DNC at the time that the DNC initiated the first public acknowledgement or allegation they'd been hacked

$4\\7-15-20Hersh DepositionP 40Q: Why do you recognize the name Guccifer 2.0?Hersh: Because it's been involved...it was hired by...my recollection is it was hired by the DNC at the time that the DNC initiated the first public acknowledgement or allegation they'd been hacked$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 54

Q: Do you recall a reference to General Flynn in the audio?

Hersh: No, but I'm-

Q: Okay, we'll get to that.

Hersh: I certainly knew Mike Flynn.

$5\\7-15-20HershP 54Q: Do you recall a reference to General Flynn in the audio?Hersh: No, but I'm-Q: Okay, we'll get to that.Hersh: I certainly knew Mike Flynn.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 58

Hersh: It [Hillary Clinton had] been -- if she'd been elected, I might have done quite a bit about her.

$6\\7-15-20HershP 58Hersh: It [Hillary Clinton had] been -- if she'd been elected, I might have done quite a bit about her.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 69

Hersh: Person...have high regard, happened to mention...we're talking about whether or not I talked to an FBI agent or not, or he did. He did not. Doesn't mean he did not talk to somebody who...had access to FBI reports who wasn't in the FBI as an agent.

$7\\7-15-20HershP 69Hersh: Person...have high regard, happened to mention...we're talking about whether or not I talked to an FBI agent or not, or he did. He did not. Doesn't mean he did not talk to somebody who...had access to FBI reports who wasn't in the FBI as an agent.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 82

Hersh: I don't publish much of what I know. I just keep it... I know what the problems are between the FBI and the DC office and the office in Brooklyn, which is the senior office for the FBI. And the Eastern District of Brooklyn is their best cyber unit.

$8\\7-15-20HershP 82Hersh: I don't publish much of what I know. I just keep it... I know what the problems are between the FBI and the DC office and the office in Brooklyn, which is the senior office for the FBI. And the Eastern District of Brooklyn is their best cyber unit.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 86

Q: The conversation with your source was... several months before... the conversation with Mr. Butowsky?

Hersh: I can't tell you when because...this is a person I've known for 30, 35 years, and we talk a lot.

$9\\7-15-20HershP 86Q: The conversation with your source was... several months before... the conversation with Mr. Butowsky?Hersh: I can't tell you when because...this is a person I've known for 30, 35 years, and we talk a lot.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 90

Hersh: Spent 10 years looking what happened in Libya, Gmail, Clinton Foundation. And in those 10 years I've learned a greater deal about communications between the United States and Russia on a lot of very sophisticated levels that are not widely known.

$10\\7-15-20HershP 90Hersh: Spent 10 years looking what happened in Libya, Gmail, Clinton Foundation. And in those 10 years I've learned a greater deal about communications between the United States and Russia on a lot of very sophisticated levels that are not widely known.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 91

Hersh: Nothing in the Podesta file, nothing that was eventually made by Julian Assange -- I guess that's who did it, if he did do it. I think so-- nothing that was made public was after that date, May 21. There was a reason that was important to me...

$11\\7-15-20HershP 91Hersh: Nothing in the Podesta file, nothing that was eventually made by Julian Assange -- I guess that's who did it, if he did do it. I think so-- nothing that was made public was after that date, May 21. There was a reason that was important to me...$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 98

Q: What your source told you was that he or she had been informed that Seth Rich had submitted a series of documents, emails, from the DNC Wikileaks. Is that -- is that correct?

Hersh: Yes.

$12\\7-15-20HershP 98Q: What your source told you was that he or she had been informed that Seth Rich had submitted a series of documents, emails, from the DNC Wikileaks. Is that -- is that correct?Hersh: Yes.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 101

Hersh: Some of the reports were not written by Mr. Steele, to the best of my knowledge.

$13\\7-15-20HershP 101Hersh: Some of the reports were not written by Mr. Steele, to the best of my knowledge.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 104

Q: And did you ever -- did you read the dossier?

Hersh: I started reading one of them, and I stopped, and I've not looked back.

$14\\7-15-20HershP 104Q: And did you ever -- did you read the dossier?Hersh: I started reading one of them, and I stopped, and I've not looked back.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 111

Hersh: In the intelligence world there's a lot of information that isn't put down... A lot of stuff that's done hand to hand. Just the whole business of being covert is not to leave a trail or a paper trail.

$15\\7-15-20HershP 111Hersh: In the intelligence world there's a lot of information that isn't put down... A lot of stuff that's done hand to hand. Just the whole business of being covert is not to leave a trail or a paper trail.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 114

Hersh: They live in a world of a lot of messages passed orally or in code... The word "report" is just different for me than it is for a lot of other people.

$16\\7-15-20HershP 114Hersh: They live in a world of a lot of messages passed orally or in code... The word "report" is just different for me than it is for a lot of other people.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 134

Hersh: What do you think Julian Assange's game was with the gmails and that earlier interview you showed?

Heuristically, I thought he was sending Hillary a message. I got this. When you get elected, which she looked very good, I want that pardon.

$17\\7-15-20HershP 134Hersh: What do you think Julian Assange's game was with the gmails and that earlier interview you showed? Heuristically, I thought he was sending Hillary a message. I got this. When you get elected, which she looked very good, I want that pardon.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 145

Q: If Mr. Flynn had been fired already, you would not say Flynn is going to up that surveillance.

Hersh: The conversation took place, it seems like, in May, as I go back into this.

$18\\7-15-20HershP 145Q: If Mr. Flynn had been fired already, you would not say Flynn is going to up that surveillance.Hersh: The conversation took place, it seems like, in May, as I go back into this.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 146

Hersh: I knew a lot more of Flynn than I -- if you're saying did I know more about the Flynn case then, yes. I knew the stuff that blew up. Now, I knew that for years, what Flynn was doing, what he was doing. He was doing bad stuff inside. Big deal.

$19\\7-15-20HershP 146Hersh: I knew a lot more of Flynn than I -- if you're saying did I know more about the Flynn case then, yes. I knew the stuff that blew up. Now, I knew that for years, what Flynn was doing, what he was doing. He was doing bad stuff inside. Big deal.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 146

Q: How would Flynn have been upping the surveillance shit if he was out of office?

Hersh: I was talking about surveillance on him. The FBI was -- had wiretapped him, and I knew that already. It wasn't the NSA. The unwarranted wiretapping on him was FBI.

$20\\7-15-20HershP 146Q: How would Flynn have been upping the surveillance shit if he was out of office?Hersh: I was talking about surveillance on him. The FBI was -- had wiretapped him, and I knew that already. It wasn't the NSA. The unwarranted wiretapping on him was FBI.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 150

Hersh: Larry Johnson worked for both the CIA, and he had a very big job -- most people don't know this -- in the State Department on counterinsurgency. He was basically a player.

$21\\7-15-20HershP 150Hersh: Larry Johnson worked for both the CIA, and he had a very big job -- most people don't know this -- in the State Department on counterinsurgency. He was basically a player.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 161

Hersh: I thought it would be a good idea for him if he just told somebody Russia didn't do it if the Russians hadn't do [sic] it. I also knew he had some other game going that he was never going to give it up, because the big play with Hillary.

$22\\7-15-20HershP 161Hersh: I thought it would be a good idea for him if he just told somebody Russia didn't do it if the Russians hadn't do [sic] it. I also knew he had some other game going that he was never going to give it up, because the big play with Hillary.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 162

Hersh: Brennan operation...
If you paid attention to what's been written about the investigation going on about Mr. Durham...the Democratic prosecutor who's doing the investigation into alleged abuses basically by the Democrats, really about the CIA now,

$23\\7-15-20HershP 162Hersh: Brennan operation...If you paid attention to what's been written about the investigation going on about Mr. Durham...the Democratic prosecutor who's doing the investigation into alleged abuses basically by the Democrats, really about the CIA now,$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 164

Hersh: It's going to be a real problem for Democrats if it comes out before the election, which it may not.

$24\\7-15-20HershP 164Hersh: It's going to be a real problem for Democrats if it comes out before the election, which it may not.$

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7-15-20
Hersh
P 166

Hersh: The CIA is a Cold War agency. The way you make money and get budgets in the CIA is you have to have a Russian enemy. That's what it's been for 50 years. If there was no KGB and no CIA we'd be better off. They both were playing against each other.

$25\\7-15-20HershP 166Hersh: The CIA is a Cold War agency. The way you make money and get budgets in the CIA is you have to have a Russian enemy. That's what it's been for 50 years. If there was no KGB and no CIA we'd be better off. They both were playing against each other.$

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Here is a link to Seymour Hersh's July 15, 2020 Oral Deposition in the Aaron Rich V Ed Butowsky, Matt Couch, America First Media

Note: It is a link directly to a PDF download

https://lawflog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2020.12.30-Exhibit-8-Hersh-depositionstamped.pdf

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