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Something that annoys me a lot about tier lists, MU charts, ect in the smash community is that they are meant to be opinions that lead to discussion.
Nowadays I feel like there's so much vitriol thrown out towards anything that isn't agreed upon instead of wondering (1/)?
Nowadays I feel like there's so much vitriol thrown out towards anything that isn't agreed upon instead of wondering (1/)?
"Hmmmmmm why don't I agree with that" and people use disagreements as a way to invalidate someone's opinion.
These things aren't facts, the only facts we have are statistics and we know even those aren't great in smash because of many, and I mean many factors (2/?)
These things aren't facts, the only facts we have are statistics and we know even those aren't great in smash because of many, and I mean many factors (2/?)
I feel like especially for top players there are so many people who go "well they are a top player their opinions are always weird" like ???????
We have opinions formed from understanding the game better than most people, but get this, our opinions also come from playing (3/?)
We have opinions formed from understanding the game better than most people, but get this, our opinions also come from playing (3/?)
at a level which is rare, so of course they will be different when we experience smash in a way that most people can't.
When people go "Dabuz/ Esam/ MkLeo/ ect. are top players their opinions are weird/ wrong" what you're really saying is top level smash is different from (4/?)
When people go "Dabuz/ Esam/ MkLeo/ ect. are top players their opinions are weird/ wrong" what you're really saying is top level smash is different from (4/?)
(4/?) other levels of smash and guess what, it kinda is. That's good, that means there is something to learn from and you should be asking yourself "Hmmm why does Dabuz think Pikachu is only 7th best" (watch me fight that overrated but top tier character)
And yes, everyone's opinions are biased based on their experiences.
I main Olimar/ Rosa/ Min Min, used to main Palu, have a strong pocket Pit, can play most of the roster at a very competent level, ect.
I'm more well rounded in my knowledge & experience than most people (6/?)
I main Olimar/ Rosa/ Min Min, used to main Palu, have a strong pocket Pit, can play most of the roster at a very competent level, ect.
I'm more well rounded in my knowledge & experience than most people (6/?)
who try to make those types of arguments. And guess what, so are most top players, a lot of us can play a huge amount of the roster well because we understand the game.
As a little side note, I'm gonna be petty and say I've been right about a good majority of the DLC (7/?)
As a little side note, I'm gonna be petty and say I've been right about a good majority of the DLC (7/?)
When most people were calling Joker mid tier, I was calling him top tier for sure
When people were calling Min Min mid tier, I was saying borderline top tier and you will all hate her when offline is back
Called out people overrating Steve (though I underrated him a bit) (8/?)
When people were calling Min Min mid tier, I was saying borderline top tier and you will all hate her when offline is back
Called out people overrating Steve (though I underrated him a bit) (8/?)
And then you have to remember we have a game with 80 or so characters in it so there is almost 0 chance you will agree with any player's tier list, matchup charts, w/e
Hyper focusing on 1 or 2 or even 10 characters, only 12.5% of a player's opinion and saying all it's (9/?)
Hyper focusing on 1 or 2 or even 10 characters, only 12.5% of a player's opinion and saying all it's (9/?)
wrong because of that just doesn't make sense.
Also there are about 80 characters, someone has to be bottom/ low mid tier. Being confident in your mains or w/e is good, you should be, I'm used to everyone putting Rosa in mid tier and that's fine, I disagree but that (10/?)
Also there are about 80 characters, someone has to be bottom/ low mid tier. Being confident in your mains or w/e is good, you should be, I'm used to everyone putting Rosa in mid tier and that's fine, I disagree but that (10/?)
doesn't suddenly mean their opinion is wrong to me (Olimar in top tier does 
JKJK). Sorry to you random mid tier mains but we are playing a game where bottom tier characters are perfectly capable of having deep bracket runs and no one has exp. vs. the best of every char. (11/?)
JKJK). Sorry to you random mid tier mains but we are playing a game where bottom tier characters are perfectly capable of having deep bracket runs and no one has exp. vs. the best of every char. (11/?)
And this is coming from someone who has more hours in Ultimate alone than most people, not even including the fact I have been discussing smash and playing competitively for about 10 years now. It's impossible to know everything in this game even if you dedicate your life (12/?)
I just had to rant because I'm quite frankly annoyed seeing people try to hand wave any discussion by "LOL his opinions are weird look at these handful of uncommon takes you can't trust anything this person says at all my OPINIONS are better and basically facts though." (13/13)
So next time you disagree with something, have reasoning instead of "Hey this person's takes are different than average therefore I will pretend everything they say is completely wrong now and will kill any discussion relating to this person's opinions"
