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A couple of ground rules, people may be joining in from different years of their course, so please be constructive
And secondly, to make what you write easier to see tag your posts #TNMedEd
RTs appreciated!
Caveats:
- This is not medical advice
- It's medical student run - so there may be some inaccuracies, if you see any, please point them out!
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- This is not medical advice
- It's medical student run - so there may be some inaccuracies, if you see any, please point them out!
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Verity says she's gone from 89kg to 80kg unintentionally over the past 6 months
She's not felt hungry, and has been feeling like she's been wanting to vomit intermittently for the past 3 months - she thinks this is why she's lost her appetite
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361768635354796034
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She's not felt hungry, and has been feeling like she's been wanting to vomit intermittently for the past 3 months - she thinks this is why she's lost her appetite
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361768635354796034
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Afternoon doc,
Well I've been losing weight for the past six months and I've lost my appetite, I just feel like something's wrong with me
https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361768790627913728
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Well I've been losing weight for the past six months and I've lost my appetite, I just feel like something's wrong with me
https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361768790627913728
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I feel like something's quite seriously wrong, I've been losing weight for the past six months (89kg-->80kg) and I've not been trying to. I've lost my appetite too
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361769610157121537
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@ElleLouM
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361769610157121537
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@ElleLouM
I'm not sure what started it off, but for the past three months I've been feeling really sick a lot of the time, and that's just compounded me losing my appetite
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361769360583499779
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https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361769360583499779
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No pain, but I have noticed I've had some vomiting with the nausea over the past month, so even when I do eat it comes up
https://twitter.com/ElleLouM/status/1361771937282818053
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https://twitter.com/ElleLouM/status/1361771937282818053
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Mm, yeah actually :( over the past month the nausea's been associated with vomiting, so even when I do eat, it comes back up
No blood or green in it tho
Yeah, no problem with tougher food, it's just food as whole
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361772336920354818
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No blood or green in it tho
Yeah, no problem with tougher food, it's just food as whole
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361772336920354818
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It's probably a bit worse in the mornings, but I can't think of any triggers
https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361772405249749000
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https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361772405249749000
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Mm, so I've had this nausea for three months, and over the past month I've had quite a lot of vomiting with it
No blood or bile obvious in it
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361772852601630721
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No blood or bile obvious in it
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361772852601630721
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I've had nausea for about three months, and there's been a fair amount of vomiting over the past month
No abdo/waterworks issues, but I've probably been BOing less because I've just not been eating as much
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361772942665916421
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No abdo/waterworks issues, but I've probably been BOing less because I've just not been eating as much
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361772942665916421
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Thanks doc, it isn't :(
I don't feel it's triggered by the eating, it's probably worse in the morning, but it does mean of what little I do eat, quite a lot of it comes back up
No blood or bile obvious
https://twitter.com/ElleLouM/status/1361773669068988416
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I don't feel it's triggered by the eating, it's probably worse in the morning, but it does mean of what little I do eat, quite a lot of it comes back up
No blood or bile obvious
https://twitter.com/ElleLouM/status/1361773669068988416
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↓ bowels, but I've not been eating much. (PUing fine)
No cough or waking hot + sweaty
I do have depression that I take St John's Wort for, and I have felt pretty sickly for the past 6 months
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361775149784137728
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(Sorry for the wait, just finishing my tea!)
No cough or waking hot + sweaty
I do have depression that I take St John's Wort for, and I have felt pretty sickly for the past 6 months
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361775149784137728
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(Sorry for the wait, just finishing my tea!)
Well, my husband left me about a year ago, and adjusting to living alone has been quite difficult, I can't think of anything otherwise
https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361775763230498817
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https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361775763230498817
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No, it doesn't feel like the vomiting is related to actually eating - I have no symptoms related to mealtimes
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361776561087774720
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https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361776561087774720
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I have been feeling a bit lightheaded over the past few weeks now you mention it
I had my last period about 5 years ago, and since my husband left me I've had no sexual partners
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361779768174247936
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I had my last period about 5 years ago, and since my husband left me I've had no sexual partners
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361779768174247936
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No, no heartburn
Hmmmmm, I drink half a bottle of wine probably three times a week, and I've smoked 10 cigarettes a day since I was a teenager
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361779841973047299
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Hmmmmm, I drink half a bottle of wine probably three times a week, and I've smoked 10 cigarettes a day since I was a teenager
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361779841973047299
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No, I haven't, I think the food gets down to my stomach
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361780121686917122
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https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361780121686917122
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It feels like it mostly happens in the mornings
https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361780383063412737
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https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361780383063412737
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No, nothing like that, I do just feel a bit unsteady on my feet when I stand up too quickly
No bleeding down below
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361780814745337865
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No bleeding down below
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361780814745337865
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I've been a wine drinker for years, but to tell the truth, I probably am drinking more now that I'm by myself and with lockdown as well
https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361781072397291520
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https://twitter.com/medstudentalice/status/1361781072397291520
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No, I don't see my GP for anything - tried going for my depression years ago then I didn't hear anything, so I just take St John's Wort now.
C section 30 years ago only hosp stay
Yeah, my dad died of colon cancer :(
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361782522888265728
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C section 30 years ago only hosp stay
Yeah, my dad died of colon cancer :(
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361782522888265728
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She looks slightly unkempt, and you think you see some angular cheilitis, her abdomen is distended
CVS and RS exams are normal
When you say assessment of fluid status, what do you want me to do?
HR 95
BP 149/80
RR 18
Temp 36.1
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361786035198455813
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CVS and RS exams are normal
When you say assessment of fluid status, what do you want me to do?
HR 95
BP 149/80
RR 18
Temp 36.1
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361786035198455813
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I've been taking the St John's Wort for about 15 years and it's better than it was, but I have been a bit low over the past year - then again I think everyone has been
My dad was 87 when he was diagnosed
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361786223002542083
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361786777141395461
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My dad was 87 when he was diagnosed
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361786223002542083
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361786777141395461
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Sure, JVP is normal, mucous membranes are moist, central and peripheral CRTs are <2
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361788283307622400
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https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361788283307622400
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Well, actually...our GP practice is trialling POCT FBC machines, so we could have that back preetty quickly :P
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361789427945717764
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https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361789427945717764
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Sure, have some electrolytes too from our magic machine
Hb 108
MCV 109
WCC 9.5
Platelets 125
Na 132
K 3.8
Urea 2.1
Creat 94
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361789865369739266
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Hb 108
MCV 109
WCC 9.5
Platelets 125
Na 132
K 3.8
Urea 2.1
Creat 94
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361789865369739266
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Lol, fair @a_c_harvey
Hb 115-160
MCV 80-100
WCC 4-10
Platelets 150-400
Urea 2.5-7
Creatinine 70-120
https://twitter.com/Dominic_G_M/status/1361792360133369856
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Hb 115-160
MCV 80-100
WCC 4-10
Platelets 150-400
Urea 2.5-7
Creatinine 70-120
https://twitter.com/Dominic_G_M/status/1361792360133369856
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The lab'll process them as a priority
https://twitter.com/StudentDoctorB2/status/1361793307127537665
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https://twitter.com/StudentDoctorB2/status/1361793307127537665
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Why do we think she's got a microcytic anaemia?
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361794748378398740
@anidioticfool @somedayadoctor
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https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361794748378398740
@anidioticfool @somedayadoctor
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*MACROCYTIC
Sure we can
@somedayadoctor @a_c_harvey
Thoughts on differentials atm?
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361794549501280256
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@somedayadoctor @a_c_harvey
Thoughts on differentials atm?
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361794549501280256
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:( Soz, I meant
She has a macrocytic anaemia, what could be causing that?
@somedayadoctor
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361796001737170954
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She has a macrocytic anaemia, what could be causing that?
@somedayadoctor
https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361796001737170954
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So do we think she ticks the 2WW box?
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361795730785058817
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https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361795730785058817
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Exactly! There was a slightly hidden clue in the social history...
https://twitter.com/StudentDoctorB2/status/1361796319216566276
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https://twitter.com/StudentDoctorB2/status/1361796319216566276
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Good call, will try and finish this up shortly...you're going in the right direction
https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361796448384409608
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https://twitter.com/clarissascortex/status/1361796448384409608
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It's 10 o'clock, and we have a winner...
https://twitter.com/StudentDoctorB2/status/1361796648251379722 and @anidioticfool both got it within about a minute of each other!
The LFTs have also incidentally turned up
ALP 360 (30-350)
GGT 885 (10-50)
ALT 270 (5-35)
Albumin 22 (35-50)
Bili 28 (3-19)
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https://twitter.com/StudentDoctorB2/status/1361796648251379722 and @anidioticfool both got it within about a minute of each other!
The LFTs have also incidentally turned up
ALP 360 (30-350)
GGT 885 (10-50)
ALT 270 (5-35)
Albumin 22 (35-50)
Bili 28 (3-19)
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I think you could defo justify endoscopy, but before you got far enough down that path you'd find a massive liver on USS...and see the above LFTs ;)
https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361797003399766020
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https://twitter.com/somedayadoctor/status/1361797003399766020
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She's on that path, but she's not quite got those signs just yet
#TNMedEd https://twitter.com/a_c_harvey/status/1361797880793731078
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Our patient was being a little coy and underestimating her alcohol consumption
Sorry, that was really mean ;) She was probably closer to a bottle most days more recently, hence the worsening nausea and vomiting
https://twitter.com/Dominic_G_M/status/1361783886670426116
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Sorry, that was really mean ;) She was probably closer to a bottle most days more recently, hence the worsening nausea and vomiting
https://twitter.com/Dominic_G_M/status/1361783886670426116
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